I am looking into buying a 67 rs/ss. It is a 4 speed convertible and from what I can tell from the cowl tag it is for real. According to the guy it has been sitting for a very long time and has very low miles. It looks like that could be the case, but is there a good way to tell? Would there be wear on certain things if the odometer had flipped (seats, pedals, etc...)? It seems like a pretty rare color combo with sierra fawn exterior, white top and parchment/black interior. It needs a full restoration. The body is pretty good, some rust, but nothing too major, the interior needs a serious cleaning and painting, but looks to be in decent shape. Any idea on what a good price would be and what it might go for after a complete restoration? I am new to Camaro's and don't know a lot of the details that might be involved. Any help would be appreciated.

 

First things first, how well do you know the guy?

I'd check these:

1) Seat mounts.

2) Behind door panels.

3) Pedals (as you said).

4) Under-dash wires.

5) Trunk moulding for cracks and wear.

After doing a general lookover, just remember, that if it feels like you're getting screwed over, you probably are.

What you pay should be relative to how much you want/love the car, but unless it's damn-near perfect, I wouldn't go over 35 grand for a 67' rs/ss.
Good luck.

 

All orginal drive Line? Engine, Tranny rear? Big block or Small block? Stick or Automatic?


My 67 RS/SS is not a numbers matching motor it was/is a 350 4 speed. The rest of the car is a original. Mine was a mid to late 80's restoration. I can hop in it and drive anywhere but it is getting to the point I need to start replacing stuff due to age. I would guess mine is worth about 20K. My car is in pretty decent shape I would set the fully restored value at 30K. 40K if I have the orginal motor. 50K if it was a Big Block 4 speed car with the orginal motor.

Older restoration are a double edged sword. If the body work has help up for 15-20 year it must have been decent but there where a lot more half a$$ jobs done back in the day cause these cars where not worth the money when done and many patch parts where not around. You got to take your hat off to the guys that did do good restoration. Spending 20K on a car that they knew would only be worth 8-10K when done. That is loving a car.

Painting an interior is most likely a pipe dream if the car has been sitting very long. THe material are most likely brittle and the seams are week. The door pannels if original are paper in the back. If you drive the car the interior will show wear quickly.

 

Thanks Guys for the advise. The car needs work. I am looking at buying it to do a restoration. It will need some body work and a fresh paint job. It also needs at least a really good cleaning of the interior and will need some replacement I'm sure. The car is an unrestored, numbers matching, '67 RS/SS 350 4 speed convertible. I would like to bring it back to its glory and not do much modification, but rather a restoration. I know I will have to put quite a bit into it, but I am not sure what a fair price for it would be in it's current shape. My goal is to make it a $35K or $40K car and I have time to do it, but money is limited (who's isn't) and I don't want to way over pay for the car initially and eat up money I could put into it. I hope that helps.

 

To reach your goal of a 35 to 40K car the car will need to be a "Near 100" Mint. It will cost you 30K to get it their. There is not clear way to make money on these cars.

Value will be based on condition. Can you put it on a hoist? Underneath is everything. My guess would be a Value between 10-16 if everything is there but it will not run. If you do not have to install new frame rails floor pans or trunk floor it will be closer to the 16K. If you do not know what you are looking for you should find a local Camaro expert. If you have to replace the rocker pannels on a rag top it is a major undertaking. I mean the kind of job most body shops with frame repair will not do. It requires a Jig for the whole car.

 

How much is the owner asking and any pics of the car? This might help in getting more accurate estimates from the forum.

 

Again, thanks for everyones help. I have not looked at the car yet, but plan to this weekend. Gorn, your info on the rocker panels is the type of stuff I need to know so I don't get screwed. The car is for sale locally, but can be seen on e-bay at http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-...item1c1930c28f. There are some pictures there. All of the front sheet metal needs replaced, but replacement parts are included. I know that this will involve a lot of time, effort and money. I am not doing this to get rich, I love doing this. I haven't done it in a few years and would like to get back into it now that my kids are getting older and can help. These cars are getting scarce and I don't want the ones like this getting chopped up and modified to be something that can't be undone. What does everyone think after seeing the pictures? I know that there are a lot of views that are not shown that can tell a lot about the car. What specific things should I look for when I see it? Thanks again.

 

You started this thread by saying, "What should I pay".

The answer is simple. You stated that you only wanted to put $35 - $40 thousand into the car. Start adding up parts and labor for all the repairs and you'll know what you should pay IMO.

Don't make the mistake of overlooking the small stuff, it adds up very, very quick. By small stuff, I'm talking about light bulbs, taill light and marker light bulb holders, headlight switch, flashers, dash panel lights and assemblies, turn signal switch, ***** for wipers, lights, heater controls, heater motor etc, misc replacement screws, front clip bolt set, heater hoses, fuel line, brake lines, radio antenna, bumper bolts, hinge pins, hood hinges, door springs, hood springs. You ge the idea Before you know it, you've just added $2,000 in "little stuff". BTW, those front quarter pieces that fit on the front fenders below the bumper that need to be replaces, but don't come with the new front end, I think those are around $70-80 each.

The way I see it, your interior is pretty much shot, and I wouldn't be suprised if the corrossion I see isn't into your wiring harness. Every piece of chrome on the car will have to be replaced including interior ash trays and the steering wheel. Thank goodness the window moulding is stainless and if it's not dented, you just need some elbow grease and a good buffing wheel to bring it's shine back.

If I wanted to only have $40,000 into the car and not a dime more (doing most of the work myself), I wouldn't give a nickle over $10,000 but would try to get the car for around $8,000. Keep in mind that I can hang fenders and doors, and I can strip paint, but I'm not a body man. Also, I'm not a machinist so all my engine machine work would have to go out also. I have no idea how much they charge to assemble a long block.

Good luck, it will be interesting to see what that car goes for.

 

I agree with stovebolts, pay no more than $10K. The owner knows what he has and sees a goldmine, he probably is expecting $15-18K for it. It is rare to find an all original car, but again, stovebolts is right, tell him the cost to restore the car, go step by step with the prices and maybe he will realize how much money and effort is needed to restore this car to like-new. I think it is an awesome car and that you should go for it! You're gonna pay a ton for restoration, but it will be amazing once completed. I like your style in keeping it original