Suspension/steering question
#11
RE: Suspension/steering question
ORIGINAL: Gorn
Since owning a first gen I have done a bit of research I can say its BS. The designers just screwed up. They knew there was going to be a V-8 put in these cars from day 1 of the design. The reason the Chevy 350 was designed was to be in the first SS Camaro It was not a after thought. The Camaro was to directly compete with the Mustang. At the time they started with their pony car design the V-8 was available in the Mustang. Big blocks are another story. While some of the first cars made where SS's 350'sthe car was in production for months before the first big block came out. One could arguethe Big Blockwas not an original design.
Since owning a first gen I have done a bit of research I can say its BS. The designers just screwed up. They knew there was going to be a V-8 put in these cars from day 1 of the design. The reason the Chevy 350 was designed was to be in the first SS Camaro It was not a after thought. The Camaro was to directly compete with the Mustang. At the time they started with their pony car design the V-8 was available in the Mustang. Big blocks are another story. While some of the first cars made where SS's 350'sthe car was in production for months before the first big block came out. One could arguethe Big Blockwas not an original design.
Then GM advertised the 67' SS396 Camaro justafterits debut in the fall of 66'. I'll double check that though, unless someone can add to this.
Oddly enough though, this Fri & Sat I was helping a friend of mine replace the rear seal and bushingon aT-10 4-speed man. trans on his 65 Mustang GT (clone). Leaking gear oil after trying to beat my SS. jk... it was leaking soon after he bought it.
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RE: Suspension/steering question
FYI My 350SS was built early November 66 the first big block came off the production line January fo 67. I think they had to wait fora modifcation (aka Tracktion bar)to reduce wheel hop before they could put in the big block. That kind of tells me there was not a lot of big block testing going on before product release.
#13
RE: Suspension/steering question
So, poly vs. rubber argument aside, I'm planning to replace inner and outer tie rod ends, upper and lower ball joints,
idler arm, pitman arm, upper and lower A-arm bushings, and sway bar end links. While I have the master cylinder and booster off, I'm also replacing the steering coupler. Are there any other parts I should consider while it's torn down?
Also, any input on the fast-ratio steering question? Is there an easy way to tell without removing the box?
idler arm, pitman arm, upper and lower A-arm bushings, and sway bar end links. While I have the master cylinder and booster off, I'm also replacing the steering coupler. Are there any other parts I should consider while it's torn down?
Also, any input on the fast-ratio steering question? Is there an easy way to tell without removing the box?
#14
RE: Suspension/steering question
Check your sway bar mounts, they can get pretty out of shape with age.
Not certain on the steering box, but I think the standards had a little over 4 turns lock to lock.
Quick ratio was around 3 turns.
Not certain on the steering box, but I think the standards had a little over 4 turns lock to lock.
Quick ratio was around 3 turns.
#15
RE: Suspension/steering question
ORIGINAL: Skinner67
Also, any input on the fast-ratio steering question? Is there an easy way to tell without removing the box?
Also, any input on the fast-ratio steering question? Is there an easy way to tell without removing the box?
#16
RE: Suspension/steering question
They have body stiffening rails that run from the front subframe to the front of the rear leaf spring housing they come in either bolt on or weld on , I would start there and take care of some of the body torque that comes from hole shots fast acceleration etc , would also take some of the twist and preasure off of the frame bushings . As for the handling issue if you are concerned more with the handling asspect than the original asspect i would go with a rack and pinion upgrade with adjustable coil overs , i know you mentioned that budget is an issue but my opinion has always been save your money and fix it so you dont have to fix it again later . I know people that have had handling issues with older style suspensions and were amased at the difference in the rack and coil over upgrades .
#17
RE: Suspension/steering question
ORIGINAL: bigdog59
They have body stiffening rails that run from the front subframe to the front of the rear leaf spring housing they come in either bolt on or weld on , I would start there and take care of some of the body torque that comes from hole shots fast acceleration etc , would also take some of the twist and preasure off of the frame bushings . As for the handling issue if you are concerned more with the handling asspect than the original asspect i would go with a rack and pinion upgrade with adjustable coil overs , i know you mentioned that budget is an issue but my opinion has always been save your money and fix it so you dont have to fix it again later . I know people that have had handling issues with older style suspensions and were amased at the difference in the rack and coil over upgrades .
They have body stiffening rails that run from the front subframe to the front of the rear leaf spring housing they come in either bolt on or weld on , I would start there and take care of some of the body torque that comes from hole shots fast acceleration etc , would also take some of the twist and preasure off of the frame bushings . As for the handling issue if you are concerned more with the handling asspect than the original asspect i would go with a rack and pinion upgrade with adjustable coil overs , i know you mentioned that budget is an issue but my opinion has always been save your money and fix it so you dont have to fix it again later . I know people that have had handling issues with older style suspensions and were amased at the difference in the rack and coil over upgrades .
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