New Camaro prototype photos (in testing)!
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RE: New Camaro prototype photos (in testing)!
quite differant
In following the new camaro from concept to the lates spy photos. I have to conclude so far that GM has screwed up the originalstyle of the Camaro.
In comparing concept photos to the Numerous spy photos. I see that they did indead raise the roof line as rumored, as well as change the 1/4 window and rear window.All this has chnged the stance and appearance from the concept.It appears to be a G6 coupe roof on the new camaro now instead of the Corvette styled roof which IMHO looked fitting to the sproty styling of the original concept.
The side markers are now a larger and uglier.
They've added some hideous door handles, and side rearview mirrors.
The front and rear covers are rounded out more than the concept, and the head lights have been opted for some large ridiculous compsite styled ones.
I can understand the wheel change for testing, albeit lame looking.
The interior has been changed slightly. I'll reserve my opinion of it until I've seen it in person.
It least they left the tailights alone.
How can I justify my speculations you ask?
I've been a Kustom Car and Truck Builder for nearly 30 years. After working on so many differant models you just seem to pick up the subtle differances in body styling.
In following the new camaro from concept to the lates spy photos. I have to conclude so far that GM has screwed up the originalstyle of the Camaro.
In comparing concept photos to the Numerous spy photos. I see that they did indead raise the roof line as rumored, as well as change the 1/4 window and rear window.All this has chnged the stance and appearance from the concept.It appears to be a G6 coupe roof on the new camaro now instead of the Corvette styled roof which IMHO looked fitting to the sproty styling of the original concept.
The side markers are now a larger and uglier.
They've added some hideous door handles, and side rearview mirrors.
The front and rear covers are rounded out more than the concept, and the head lights have been opted for some large ridiculous compsite styled ones.
I can understand the wheel change for testing, albeit lame looking.
The interior has been changed slightly. I'll reserve my opinion of it until I've seen it in person.
It least they left the tailights alone.
How can I justify my speculations you ask?
I've been a Kustom Car and Truck Builder for nearly 30 years. After working on so many differant models you just seem to pick up the subtle differances in body styling.
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RE: New Camaro prototype photos (in testing)!
Which latest spy photo are you referring to, as there are quite a few? If you haven't been to the other recently posted thread in this forum "LS9 for Camaro, is it true?", I would suggest you take a look there as the latest shot released directly by Chevy is near the end of that thread. It was pretty much accepted fact a few months ago that it wouldhave a "b" pillar and not a true hardtop (how closely are you following, these things have been all over the net), it was a given from Chevy directly many months ago that the roofline was raised slightlly (something like one inch or less) to facilitate headroom, the width of the car was changed (again openly stated by Chevy months ago) by fractions of an inch), front and rear covers more rounded- could you elaborate on what they are and what you mean by that (we dummies that have not been building Kustoms for 30 years don't understand technical talk), the production headlights have not appeared anywhere, and I believe the tail lights were changed, slightly larger. As I don't work for Chevy or any of their suppliers or for any auto magazines or anything else associated with the auto industry, howdo I know these things? I know them because they are posted all over the internet and I've been following thenew Camaro from concept to prototype for a year or more and will be soon following from prototype to production. I would like to see further comments and input about what you have been seeing, because it apparently is different or from different sources than what I have been following.
Clyde
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Even though I haven't been a member here long. I have been following the process through a variety of sites, and even a a few that aren't available to the general public. (No I won't give them out).
I know GM had mentioned a while back a few of the changes that I listed. But in changing them to the extent they did. It took away form the original appeal the concept vehicle had to many people.
In my line of work you have to look past the color differances (camo)to see the real lines of the vehicle. As far as the little items you didn't notice. You have to look through the front and rear bra covers to what's there. If you're not sure of what you're seeing. Then it would be too hard to explain to you.
Not here to get into a pi$$ing match. Just pointingout what I've seen so far.
I know GM had mentioned a while back a few of the changes that I listed. But in changing them to the extent they did. It took away form the original appeal the concept vehicle had to many people.
In my line of work you have to look past the color differances (camo)to see the real lines of the vehicle. As far as the little items you didn't notice. You have to look through the front and rear bra covers to what's there. If you're not sure of what you're seeing. Then it would be too hard to explain to you.
Not here to get into a pi$$ing match. Just pointingout what I've seen so far.
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RE: New Camaro prototype photos (in testing)!
Then you obviously haven't even read all of the posts here, much less the ones all over the net as Chevy has released a pic with no camo, no bra, nothing except white paint, pic shows a prototype on what appears to be a test track with a sunroof obviously visible. And that pic has been on EVERY Camaro/GM site I've been to in the last severaldays. I'm not arguing with you or trying to start a match about anything, your perceptions are your perceptions, mine may be different. But I will counter with what I think is more accurate info if I feel someone is posting based on OLD NEWS.
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RE: New Camaro prototype photos (in testing)!
Compared to the Concept^
Wow! I have to say I lve the rear/ side better than the concept, I know it's only slightly different but still [sm=drooldude.gif][sm=drooldude.gif][sm=drooldude.gif]
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RE: New Camaro prototype photos (in testing)!
ORIGINAL: wildpaws
So you look at one crappy, fuzzyshot from a cell phone in extremely poor lighting, at a bad angle, and with a color that is probably the very worst to pick out detail and you're convinced that the new Camaro is awful and significantly different than the concept. Perhaps you need to look at the many black/white "camoed" prototype pics (including the ones where two of them are parked next to two Mustangs) and four of them are going down the highway and see if they look much different than the concept. Follow up on that and then let me know what you think, 95% of the responses to thosepics have been very positive on several different forums.
Clyde
ORIGINAL: browndawgdude
Here's a better spy shot. http://jalopnik.com/cars/2009-chevy-...red-333256.php
With that, to your point, I think they toned down the production version from the concept significantly. Look at the body lines. They're not nearly as agressive. In the older spy shots, they had some crappy wheels on there that really made it look bad. Tons a space between the tire and wheel well. In the new shot, you can see the b-pillar, so cearly they weren't able to maintain the concept body design.
To me, I think the Challenger production car is looking better than the camaro production car...so far. We'll see I guess. I just can't believe that Chevy is launching a full year after the Challenger. That just sucks.
Don't get me wrong...I've been a Camaro fan forever and I want to see the Camaro do well. I just don't think that Chevy had done as good of a job as the Challenger team.
Here's a better spy shot. http://jalopnik.com/cars/2009-chevy-...red-333256.php
With that, to your point, I think they toned down the production version from the concept significantly. Look at the body lines. They're not nearly as agressive. In the older spy shots, they had some crappy wheels on there that really made it look bad. Tons a space between the tire and wheel well. In the new shot, you can see the b-pillar, so cearly they weren't able to maintain the concept body design.
To me, I think the Challenger production car is looking better than the camaro production car...so far. We'll see I guess. I just can't believe that Chevy is launching a full year after the Challenger. That just sucks.
Don't get me wrong...I've been a Camaro fan forever and I want to see the Camaro do well. I just don't think that Chevy had done as good of a job as the Challenger team.
Clyde
suck it paws, there have already been a couple of these threads where all thinking people agreed that the prototype and therefore the production version is toned back from the concept, just like every car that has EVAR been concept.
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honestly the consept orginally teatered on the edge for me looked kinda like a updated 69 but also sort of resembled the S179 stangs..... but now again paws(dispite his panties being all up in a bunch) has a point that the front veiw was taken with a very poor quality camra it now looks less like the stang but now looks like the charger and after watching a 425 horse power srt-8 charger run a 14.7 here at the local track that is very concerning
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RE: New Camaro prototype photos (in testing)!
ORIGINAL: SpecterGT260
suck it paws, there have already been a couple of these threads where all thinking people agreed that the prototype and therefore the production version is toned back from the concept, just like every car that has EVAR been concept.
ORIGINAL: wildpaws
So you look at one crappy, fuzzyshot from a cell phone in extremely poor lighting, at a bad angle, and with a color that is probably the very worst to pick out detail and you're convinced that the new Camaro is awful and significantly different than the concept. Perhaps you need to look at the many black/white "camoed" prototype pics (including the ones where two of them are parked next to two Mustangs) and four of them are going down the highway and see if they look much different than the concept. Follow up on that and then let me know what you think, 95% of the responses to thosepics have been very positive on several different forums.
Clyde
ORIGINAL: browndawgdude
Here's a better spy shot. http://jalopnik.com/cars/2009-chevy-...red-333256.php
With that, to your point, I think they toned down the production version from the concept significantly. Look at the body lines. They're not nearly as agressive. In the older spy shots, they had some crappy wheels on there that really made it look bad. Tons a space between the tire and wheel well. In the new shot, you can see the b-pillar, so cearly they weren't able to maintain the concept body design.
To me, I think the Challenger production car is looking better than the camaro production car...so far. We'll see I guess. I just can't believe that Chevy is launching a full year after the Challenger. That just sucks.
Don't get me wrong...I've been a Camaro fan forever and I want to see the Camaro do well. I just don't think that Chevy had done as good of a job as the Challenger team.
Here's a better spy shot. http://jalopnik.com/cars/2009-chevy-...red-333256.php
With that, to your point, I think they toned down the production version from the concept significantly. Look at the body lines. They're not nearly as agressive. In the older spy shots, they had some crappy wheels on there that really made it look bad. Tons a space between the tire and wheel well. In the new shot, you can see the b-pillar, so cearly they weren't able to maintain the concept body design.
To me, I think the Challenger production car is looking better than the camaro production car...so far. We'll see I guess. I just can't believe that Chevy is launching a full year after the Challenger. That just sucks.
Don't get me wrong...I've been a Camaro fan forever and I want to see the Camaro do well. I just don't think that Chevy had done as good of a job as the Challenger team.
Clyde
suck it paws, there have already been a couple of these threads where all thinking people agreed that the prototype and therefore the production version is toned back from the concept, just like every car that has EVAR been concept.
Why don't you pull your head out of the sand (or elsewhere) long enough to study the latest pics and tell me where you see all of thesechanges that makes it so "toned down" from the Concept. I'm more than willing to listen if you can offer honest, constructive thoughts rather than spewingoff with a garbage mouth. And if it's honestly your opinion that the prototypes are so watered down from the Concept, you are welcome to that opinion, but I will have to say that opinion is not in the majority on any one of several forums I participate on every day.
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RE: New Camaro prototype photos (in testing)!
ORIGINAL: BigNic
honestly the consept orginally teatered on the edge for me looked kinda like a updated 69 but also sort of resembled the S179 stangs..... but now again paws(dispite his panties being all up in a bunch) has a point that the front veiw was taken with a very poor quality camra it now looks less like the stang but now looks like the charger and after watching a 425 horse power srt-8 charger run a 14.7 here at the local track that is very concerning
honestly the consept orginally teatered on the edge for me looked kinda like a updated 69 but also sort of resembled the S179 stangs..... but now again paws(dispite his panties being all up in a bunch) has a point that the front veiw was taken with a very poor quality camra it now looks less like the stang but now looks like the charger and after watching a 425 horse power srt-8 charger run a 14.7 here at the local track that is very concerning
Clyde
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From: Potato
RE: New Camaro prototype photos (in testing)!
that just means one of 2 things, ur either a closed minded jackass, or a unwavering biased fanboy. Flat hoods and big hips are all a part of the retro look, they will all end up with alot of similarities, especially when compared to the previous generations.
aside from the B pillar, the latest pics ive seen have a lesser flair on the rear fenders, and the overall stance of the car is changed, giving it the 4x4 look we all know and love in our stock musclecars [:'(]. A suspension upgrade and some minor cosmetic efffects will get u right back to the concept again, but from what I'm seeing, they are not provided.
same EXACT thing the mustang folks went through going from their concept to the toned down production model. then the guys just threw on some minor visual aids to get it back toward where the concept was.
aside from the B pillar, the latest pics ive seen have a lesser flair on the rear fenders, and the overall stance of the car is changed, giving it the 4x4 look we all know and love in our stock musclecars [:'(]. A suspension upgrade and some minor cosmetic efffects will get u right back to the concept again, but from what I'm seeing, they are not provided.
same EXACT thing the mustang folks went through going from their concept to the toned down production model. then the guys just threw on some minor visual aids to get it back toward where the concept was.