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Old 07-29-2010, 01:24 PM
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i dont have ALLDATA and for about a week i wont have the $17 to subscribe so i have NO IDEA what ckts 340 439 or 229 are,because all it says on the 3 plugs going to the PCM is numbers beside each wire like 1 throgh 40 and i dont know what the "C" conector on the pcm is either because theres no letters on the plug or PCM....
if you could help me out with some info as to what is what, thanks again osduck5,and crabby
 
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:15 PM
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i just subscribed to alldata and i cart find a troubleshooting guide or anything, no wiring diagram going to the pcm (were each wire goes) etc... everybody says how good alldata is but i cant find anything!! im EXTREMELEY irritated... can someone help me were did you find the troubleshooting flow chart (osduck5)????
 
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:14 PM
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what you want is a factory service manual for your yr. got one for the 93 for 20 bucks on ebabe. this is what i have for a 93 3.4
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:32 PM
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thanks craby, but i think im just gonna sell the car fo $500... because i have no idea were to start right now i cant find any reason why i shouldnt have spark,or injector signal, i REALY dont wanna sell the car but NO IDEA what to do/were to start at this point...

things ive replaced so far and still no start:

-ignition control module
-all three coil pack's
-camshaft position sensor
-3X crank sensor (last night)
-spark plugs
-plug wires
-coolant temp sensor
-ignition switch

all those parts were replaced since it quit running (im probly forgetting a couple)

the power and ground going to the ICM is good, the signal from the 3x is good BUT WHY NO SPARK!?!?!?!?!?

if you have anything i should check/test let me know what/how etc... but if i dont figure it out by monday morning i am selling it for $500 i cant deal with this car for much longer
 
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by NEW_CAMARO_OWNER
i just subscribed to alldata and i cart find a troubleshooting guide or anything, no wiring diagram going to the pcm (were each wire goes) etc... everybody says how good alldata is but i cant find anything!! im EXTREMELEY irritated... can someone help me were did you find the troubleshooting flow chart (osduck5)????
After you log in and select your vehicle, go to diagrams then select electrical diagrams and there should be a list of every electrical diagram for your vehicle. JMO, but I would start with doing the test for the ignition switch since it was replaced. If it has an issue, everything after that is just a waste of time. Heck, I might even bypass the security just to make sure. And the reason I say that I would double check it is because of the previous post you state that they just wanted quick money and called and told you to pick up the car. Were all the other parts you mentioned you replaced new out of the box?
 

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Old 07-30-2010, 07:24 PM
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yep, all the parts are from autozone or advance auto BRAND NEW out of the box, the ignition switch was from autozone too(he replaced/showed me receipt)... ill test the ignition switch tommorow morning when im not so pissed off at the car, im off tommorow so if theres anything else i should check/test let me know, yeah that alldata site is realy irritating how its set up,to me atleast cause im not realy a computer person...
 
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:41 PM
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Here is where I started reading for your thread in ALLDATA.

Vehicle level - powertrain management-computers and control system-testing and inspection-diagnostic trouble code test and associated procedures-related test and information-chart A3 Engine cranks but will not run.
 
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:11 PM
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thanks alot, osduck5 i just clicked on the ones you listed above and had to look around on the page for "diagnostic trouble code test and associated procedures" i didnt relize that the short cut on the right hand side changed every page, should be able to find things a little easier now.
 
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Another thing, when you are looking at the diagrams and pages, anything that is in blue or in a blue box is a link to whatever they are talking about.
 
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:56 PM
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cool man, i figured that out by accidently clicking a blue box... you were right osduck all the problems have some thing to do with connector "C" just got to find out what is causing it...
if i go to:

Powertrain Management » Computers and Control Systems » Engine Control Module » Diagrams » Connector C » Pinout Description

do you know were the ohm/volt specs would be for each wire?
 


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