help me pick car i dont know what motor to choose
#11
04-20-2012, 09:43 PM
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tokeland, Washington
Posts: 21,671
hay alligator gar is good eatin. the stock lt1 will run fine on regular. go with a 3.8 and you will be better off. ins and all. i would be carefull on the bird. could be a head gasket. then your probly lookin at a motor change. and that may also be an option. if you can find a really nice car with bad motor for 1500 and put a series 3 3.8 in it. lots of em around with low miles and that little extra 25hp is nice.
#12
04-20-2012, 09:59 PM
i found some that dont need to much work other then body. as far as doing an engine swap i would rather stay away because they are so compacted in the car. i was looking at some that need trans though.
#14
04-20-2012, 10:09 PM
yeah my dad had to pull one like that. sence he would be doing most of the work i would rather save him the time due to him only getting one day off and he already is swapping a trans on a jeep cheroke and swaping a diesel motor in a tandem axle dump
#15
04-20-2012, 11:04 PM
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: The 'Burbs of Chicago
Posts: 18,306
Are they a flying fish too? I think my initial pun went over many heads here.
Last edited by Camaro 69; 04-20-2012 at 11:06 PM.
#16
04-21-2012, 10:07 AM
hay alligator gar is good eatin. the stock lt1 will run fine on regular. go with a 3.8 and you will be better off. ins and all. i would be carefull on the bird. could be a head gasket. then your probly lookin at a motor change. and that may also be an option. if you can find a really nice car with bad motor for 1500 and put a series 3 3.8 in it. lots of em around with low miles and that little extra 25hp is nice.
#17
04-21-2012, 12:57 PM
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tokeland, Washington
Posts: 21,671
copied from wick
Series III
The Series III motors include many changes. The upper intake manifold is now aluminum on the naturally aspirated models. Intake ports are mildy improved, 1.83" intake valves (instead of 1.80" as on Series II) and 1.52" exhaust valves were introduced in 2003 engines, just before switching to Series III. Electronic throttle control is added to all versions, as is returnless fuel injection. Stronger powdered metal sinter forged connecting rods are used in 2004+ supercharged, and 2005+ naturally aspirated engines, instead of the cast iron style from Series II engines. Emissions are also reduced. In 2005, it was the first gasoline engine in the industry to attain SULEV (Super Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle).
Also note that Series III engines are the base for any 3800 produced for the 2004 year and up. This means the same block, heads, & connecting rods apply to any remaining Series II engines made after 2004 also. The difference is that Series III engines received the new superchargers (Generation 5 - Eaton m90 - if equipped), intake manifolds, fuel systems, and electronics.
[edit]L26 Naturally Aspirated
The L26 is the Series III version of the 3800. It is still a 3.8 L (231 cu in) design. Compression remains at 9.4:1 as with previous L36's, but the aluminum upper intake (2004+) and stronger connecting rods (2005+) are the primary physical changes. The powdered metal connecting rods were meant to be introduced in 2004 along with the L32's, but the GM plant in Bay City, Michigan that supplies the Flint, Michigan plant could not achieve the desired production dates in time for that engine year.
This engine was used in the following vehicles:
2004–2008 Pontiac Grand Prix
2005–2009 Buick LaCrosse
2006–2008 Buick Lucerne
[edit]L32 Supercharged
The L32 is a supercharged Series III. Introduced in 2004, the main differences between the L67 and the L32 is the L32's electronic throttle control, slightly improved cylinder head design, and updated Eaton supercharger, the Generation 5 M90. Power output is up to 260 hp (194 kW) in the Grand Prix GTP.
As with the L67, premium fuel (91 octane or higher) is required. The use of regular or lower-octane fuel can and does cause detonation that eventually leads to engine damage and failure.
Applications:
2004–2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
2006–2007 Pontiac Grand Prix GT
Series III
The Series III motors include many changes. The upper intake manifold is now aluminum on the naturally aspirated models. Intake ports are mildy improved, 1.83" intake valves (instead of 1.80" as on Series II) and 1.52" exhaust valves were introduced in 2003 engines, just before switching to Series III. Electronic throttle control is added to all versions, as is returnless fuel injection. Stronger powdered metal sinter forged connecting rods are used in 2004+ supercharged, and 2005+ naturally aspirated engines, instead of the cast iron style from Series II engines. Emissions are also reduced. In 2005, it was the first gasoline engine in the industry to attain SULEV (Super Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle).
Also note that Series III engines are the base for any 3800 produced for the 2004 year and up. This means the same block, heads, & connecting rods apply to any remaining Series II engines made after 2004 also. The difference is that Series III engines received the new superchargers (Generation 5 - Eaton m90 - if equipped), intake manifolds, fuel systems, and electronics.
[edit]L26 Naturally Aspirated
The L26 is the Series III version of the 3800. It is still a 3.8 L (231 cu in) design. Compression remains at 9.4:1 as with previous L36's, but the aluminum upper intake (2004+) and stronger connecting rods (2005+) are the primary physical changes. The powdered metal connecting rods were meant to be introduced in 2004 along with the L32's, but the GM plant in Bay City, Michigan that supplies the Flint, Michigan plant could not achieve the desired production dates in time for that engine year.
This engine was used in the following vehicles:
2004–2008 Pontiac Grand Prix
2005–2009 Buick LaCrosse
2006–2008 Buick Lucerne
[edit]L32 Supercharged
The L32 is a supercharged Series III. Introduced in 2004, the main differences between the L67 and the L32 is the L32's electronic throttle control, slightly improved cylinder head design, and updated Eaton supercharger, the Generation 5 M90. Power output is up to 260 hp (194 kW) in the Grand Prix GTP.
As with the L67, premium fuel (91 octane or higher) is required. The use of regular or lower-octane fuel can and does cause detonation that eventually leads to engine damage and failure.
Applications:
2004–2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
2006–2007 Pontiac Grand Prix GT
#18
04-21-2012, 02:22 PM
copied from wick
Series III
The Series III motors include many changes. The upper intake manifold is now aluminum on the naturally aspirated models. Intake ports are mildy improved, 1.83" intake valves (instead of 1.80" as on Series II) and 1.52" exhaust valves were introduced in 2003 engines, just before switching to Series III. Electronic throttle control is added to all versions, as is returnless fuel injection. Stronger powdered metal sinter forged connecting rods are used in 2004+ supercharged, and 2005+ naturally aspirated engines, instead of the cast iron style from Series II engines. Emissions are also reduced. In 2005, it was the first gasoline engine in the industry to attain SULEV (Super Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle).
Also note that Series III engines are the base for any 3800 produced for the 2004 year and up. This means the same block, heads, & connecting rods apply to any remaining Series II engines made after 2004 also. The difference is that Series III engines received the new superchargers (Generation 5 - Eaton m90 - if equipped), intake manifolds, fuel systems, and electronics.
[edit]L26 Naturally Aspirated
The L26 is the Series III version of the 3800. It is still a 3.8 L (231 cu in) design. Compression remains at 9.4:1 as with previous L36's, but the aluminum upper intake (2004+) and stronger connecting rods (2005+) are the primary physical changes. The powdered metal connecting rods were meant to be introduced in 2004 along with the L32's, but the GM plant in Bay City, Michigan that supplies the Flint, Michigan plant could not achieve the desired production dates in time for that engine year.
This engine was used in the following vehicles:
2004–2008 Pontiac Grand Prix
2005–2009 Buick LaCrosse
2006–2008 Buick Lucerne
[edit]L32 Supercharged
The L32 is a supercharged Series III. Introduced in 2004, the main differences between the L67 and the L32 is the L32's electronic throttle control, slightly improved cylinder head design, and updated Eaton supercharger, the Generation 5 M90. Power output is up to 260 hp (194 kW) in the Grand Prix GTP.
As with the L67, premium fuel (91 octane or higher) is required. The use of regular or lower-octane fuel can and does cause detonation that eventually leads to engine damage and failure.
Applications:
2004–2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
2006–2007 Pontiac Grand Prix GT
Series III
The Series III motors include many changes. The upper intake manifold is now aluminum on the naturally aspirated models. Intake ports are mildy improved, 1.83" intake valves (instead of 1.80" as on Series II) and 1.52" exhaust valves were introduced in 2003 engines, just before switching to Series III. Electronic throttle control is added to all versions, as is returnless fuel injection. Stronger powdered metal sinter forged connecting rods are used in 2004+ supercharged, and 2005+ naturally aspirated engines, instead of the cast iron style from Series II engines. Emissions are also reduced. In 2005, it was the first gasoline engine in the industry to attain SULEV (Super Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle).
Also note that Series III engines are the base for any 3800 produced for the 2004 year and up. This means the same block, heads, & connecting rods apply to any remaining Series II engines made after 2004 also. The difference is that Series III engines received the new superchargers (Generation 5 - Eaton m90 - if equipped), intake manifolds, fuel systems, and electronics.
[edit]L26 Naturally Aspirated
The L26 is the Series III version of the 3800. It is still a 3.8 L (231 cu in) design. Compression remains at 9.4:1 as with previous L36's, but the aluminum upper intake (2004+) and stronger connecting rods (2005+) are the primary physical changes. The powdered metal connecting rods were meant to be introduced in 2004 along with the L32's, but the GM plant in Bay City, Michigan that supplies the Flint, Michigan plant could not achieve the desired production dates in time for that engine year.
This engine was used in the following vehicles:
2004–2008 Pontiac Grand Prix
2005–2009 Buick LaCrosse
2006–2008 Buick Lucerne
[edit]L32 Supercharged
The L32 is a supercharged Series III. Introduced in 2004, the main differences between the L67 and the L32 is the L32's electronic throttle control, slightly improved cylinder head design, and updated Eaton supercharger, the Generation 5 M90. Power output is up to 260 hp (194 kW) in the Grand Prix GTP.
As with the L67, premium fuel (91 octane or higher) is required. The use of regular or lower-octane fuel can and does cause detonation that eventually leads to engine damage and failure.
Applications:
2004–2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
2006–2007 Pontiac Grand Prix GT