Code 41 need help completely lost
#1
Code 41 need help completely lost
I've got a 93 camaro v8, I work at a mechanic shop and I'm completely lost on what to do to this car, it died on me with a code 41 one day while driving but would start up if left to cool, so I drove it into the shop and replaced the icm since it was the easiest fix and after that it wouldn't start at all, so I put the old one back on and it would start and run.....so I thought ok maybe they sent the wrong one, well I have put 2 more on since then (3 icm total) and all of which only made the problem worse....again it would run off my old icm but the last time I pulled it off the back plate came off with it it must have been on it's last leg. I had recently replaced the opti a year ago, and have had two rebuilt ecm's put in now, the car will run off of starting fluid smooth, but the injectors are cut off within a second of the car starting. Does anyone at all have any idea what the problem could be? Could I really have been sent 3 bad ICM's in a row? Does the same Icm work for the v6 that works for v8? Will a 94 icm work on a 93? Any help would be appreciated.
#2
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Eastern PA,
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What brand opti did you install a year ago? The market is flooded with the China made knock offs and if it lasted a year then you are doing better then most people.
ICM turning off fuel signal? That does not sound right. Can you hook up a scan tool and look for the Opti input. I am guessing it is dropping signal randomly.
ICM turning off fuel signal? That does not sound right. Can you hook up a scan tool and look for the Opti input. I am guessing it is dropping signal randomly.
#3
that could be the problem...
That could be the problem, I remember buying it on eBay because it was cheap, but it was my understanding that if you were to scope test the red/black wire coming off the distributor, it should have simply have no breaks or skips? And I maybe misunderstood exactly how it works, but supposedly when code 41 sets the computer tells the injectors to shut down
#4
Correct me if I'm wrong
What brand opti did you install a year ago? The market is flooded with the China made knock offs and if it lasted a year then you are doing better then most people.
ICM turning off fuel signal? That does not sound right. Can you hook up a scan tool and look for the Opti input. I am guessing it is dropping signal randomly.
ICM turning off fuel signal? That does not sound right. Can you hook up a scan tool and look for the Opti input. I am guessing it is dropping signal randomly.
It runs smooth off of starting fluid, if the optic were bad would that not mean it was ok?
#5
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Eastern PA,
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If code 41 is setting they ECM can cut injector pulse to avoid flooding the engine. DO you have a manual? There should be a code 41 trouble tree. It is losing reference signal somewhere. The manual should tell you what to test first.
#7
Sounds like a bad Opti harness or Opti.
Do yourself a favor and buy a quality AC Delco/Delphi/MSD opti. Yeah it's more $$ but it sucks doing the job. Personally I like the MSD because the harness is built in, it's vented for us 93 cars, and rebuildable.
Do yourself a favor and buy a quality AC Delco/Delphi/MSD opti. Yeah it's more $$ but it sucks doing the job. Personally I like the MSD because the harness is built in, it's vented for us 93 cars, and rebuildable.
#8
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Eastern PA,
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There are tons of post from people that did not make it 2 months with ebay opti's.
#9
my question is though, if the opti is bad why will it still run off of starting fluid?