my 85 camaro started to backfire on the way back from walmart it idles just fine but when u take it up to 15 or 2 rpm it starts spuddering and backfires it also took about 5 min. to start when leaving walmart but ran fine on the way and i live maybe a mile away from the store anybody know what is going on with her?

 

could be, failing/arching plug wire, distributor cap has crack or moisture in it, failing rotor, failing ignition control module. distibutor could be lose and or not grounding correctly

 

distributer cap had both moisture and was loose i reset the distributer now sounds i think my starter is messed up

 

replaced the starter and set the ignition timing now motor turns but not firing i have no clue whats going on

 

What do you mean by "reset the distributor"? So how is it it's not running now, how did you set the timing with the engine not running? The timing gets set only when the engine is running, unless you pull it from the intake and put it back in.

 

thats exactly how i did it turned the crankshaft till i had compression in the 1st cylinder then turned it till the timing mark hit zero on the indicator. and by reset i mean i took it out and then did the above and then put it back in

 

You didn't need to remove the distributor unless the position of the vacuum advance can was restricting movement, which, depending on what distributor you have, might not even have one.
The engine was running, although not great, before you messed with the distributor and timing. So you have to figure that you messed something up. Either your timing is way off, or you may have the plug wires installed out of phase. Take a look at these two videos, and see if it doesn't give you an "aha" moment.
How to Install Distributor Video-Engine Building Repair DVD - YouTube
Engine Ignition: Wiring Distributor & Spark Plugs Video- DVD - YouTube

 

probly got it in 180 degrees off. easy to do, the number one cylinder is at tdc twice in a cycle.

 

there's no law which says at #1 TDC the rotor needs to point to cylinder #1. Heck, it can point to the firewall if you want. The trick is just wire it correctly and make a mark for the poor soul who comes behind you and thinks #1 is at 5 o'clock

 

^ I think you're gonna cornfuse the poor guy with that statement.
No, the rotor doesn't need to physically point to the #1 cylinder on the engine, but it does need to line up with the #1 plug wire.