Best options for eng/Trans combo swap with FI into 70 RS
#1
Best options for eng/Trans combo swap with FI into 70 RS
I bought a 1970 RS that has a 80’s 350 engine out of a truck. Figured since it wasn’t the original engine I’d swap it for a later 350 with some sort of fuel injection and an over drive trans
looking for advice on best donors, and any pitfalls to avoid on different years of transmissions and different years of different types of FI
thanks
looking for advice on best donors, and any pitfalls to avoid on different years of transmissions and different years of different types of FI
thanks
#2
Fred, it may be too late, er, or too early in years, but the swap used to be a V8/trans from a GM/Chev truck, or, most any V8 with TBI , at least, EFI. Yes, OBD 1, from '87 through '95-'96, but better than carb.
You would get everything you can imagine from donor.
You would hook up an electric fuel pump, as TBI requires 13 PSIG pressure and a return line to tank.
Moroso markets a T for return line fitting at the junction of tank and filler tube.
OE exh manifolds are O2 sensor ready on donor engine.
Other than this, same with OBD 2, but heftier fuel pump.
Or aftermarket EFI, $$$
You would get everything you can imagine from donor.
You would hook up an electric fuel pump, as TBI requires 13 PSIG pressure and a return line to tank.
Moroso markets a T for return line fitting at the junction of tank and filler tube.
OE exh manifolds are O2 sensor ready on donor engine.
Other than this, same with OBD 2, but heftier fuel pump.
Or aftermarket EFI, $$$
#3
Are the bell housing bolt pattern the same on all SBC
been a few years since I was involved with this and I hate to be asking such basic questions, but because I have not had any projects I haven’t followed the changes
thanks for your help
been a few years since I was involved with this and I hate to be asking such basic questions, but because I have not had any projects I haven’t followed the changes
thanks for your help
#5
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Eastern PA,
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Maybe you should review your goals here. There are some advantages to OBD2 (1996-up) and some disadvantages. There are some advantages to a simple aftermarket self leaning system. The right system for you is based on what you want out of the car, future upgrades and budget.
Just a FYI, aftermarket systems are so easy now, Roadkill did an episode where they bought the kit at a parts store and installed it in a parking lot and drove away 3 hours later.
Just a FYI, aftermarket systems are so easy now, Roadkill did an episode where they bought the kit at a parts store and installed it in a parking lot and drove away 3 hours later.
#6
Thanks.
to answer your question I’m looking for something to have that’s nice to drive gets decent mileage and has the ease of drivability. Also overdrive transmission would be nice. I know the fuel injected engines get much better mileage.
Talking with some friends at a local restoration shop that I call on for my work, they told me I should probably look for something 98 to 2006 or so. He is probably a Camaro because of the brackets and things would be more suitable then something out of a Tahoe or a pick up
to answer your question I’m looking for something to have that’s nice to drive gets decent mileage and has the ease of drivability. Also overdrive transmission would be nice. I know the fuel injected engines get much better mileage.
Talking with some friends at a local restoration shop that I call on for my work, they told me I should probably look for something 98 to 2006 or so. He is probably a Camaro because of the brackets and things would be more suitable then something out of a Tahoe or a pick up
#7
Thanks.
to answer your question I’m looking for something to have that’s nice to drive gets decent mileage and has the ease of drivability. Also overdrive transmission would be nice. I know the fuel injected engines get much better mileage.
Talking with some friends at a local restoration shop that I call on for my work, they told me I should probably look for something 98 to 2006 or so. He is probably a Camaro because of the brackets and things would be more suitable then something out of a Tahoe or a pick up
to answer your question I’m looking for something to have that’s nice to drive gets decent mileage and has the ease of drivability. Also overdrive transmission would be nice. I know the fuel injected engines get much better mileage.
Talking with some friends at a local restoration shop that I call on for my work, they told me I should probably look for something 98 to 2006 or so. He is probably a Camaro because of the brackets and things would be more suitable then something out of a Tahoe or a pick up
#8
So is the big block Chevy,one of the great things about old Chevys is the parts interchangeability. The Distributers and starters are also the same fitment big or small block.
#9
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Eastern PA,
Posts: 10,353
LS1 is a great motor, it is being swapped into everything so parts are everywhere. You would have a hard time coming up with a car that someone has not already swapped an LS into.
Price for a LS1 is going to be a lot higher then then a truck engine. The original LS1 motor is an all aluminum 5.7 350 (346 actual). Everyone is on the hunt for a low miles one. But the LS1 is just the first of the 3rd generation of chevy small blocks. If you look at trucks and Vans built after the 2000 (some 1999s) they will have LS designed iron motors and they are insanely durable. In some case bought on the cheap. The LS1 intake is very low to fit the Vet and Camaro but your 2nd gen will not it to be that low. There really is to much info to go over on the LS motors. Take your time and research it.
Eastwood is a restoration supplier, there is a show on youtube called Hands on cars they sponsor. They have Kevin restore a ratty 2nd gen and one of the things they do is a LS swap. They don't talk a lot about the motor but they go over some. Their main focus is to sell restoration stuff so you may want to fast forward past the body stuff.
Why is the LS so good.
Price for a LS1 is going to be a lot higher then then a truck engine. The original LS1 motor is an all aluminum 5.7 350 (346 actual). Everyone is on the hunt for a low miles one. But the LS1 is just the first of the 3rd generation of chevy small blocks. If you look at trucks and Vans built after the 2000 (some 1999s) they will have LS designed iron motors and they are insanely durable. In some case bought on the cheap. The LS1 intake is very low to fit the Vet and Camaro but your 2nd gen will not it to be that low. There really is to much info to go over on the LS motors. Take your time and research it.
Eastwood is a restoration supplier, there is a show on youtube called Hands on cars they sponsor. They have Kevin restore a ratty 2nd gen and one of the things they do is a LS swap. They don't talk a lot about the motor but they go over some. Their main focus is to sell restoration stuff so you may want to fast forward past the body stuff.
Why is the LS so good.
Last edited by Gorn; 01-20-2018 at 07:23 PM.
#10
The LS based 5.3 truck motors are cheap and easy to find and can make good power with a few minor mods,great gas mileage too. You might also get lucky and run across a deal on an LQ9 6.0,won't get as good a gas mileage as a 5.3 or 5.7 LS but it'll make plenty of reliable power without any mods.
LQ9
The Vortec HO 6000 or VortecMAX is a special high-output version of the Vortec 6000 V8 truck engine originally designed for Cadillac. This engine was renamed as the VortecMAX for 2006. It features high-compression (10:1) flat-top pistons for an extra 10 hp (7 kW) and 10 lb⋅ft (14 N⋅m), bringing output to 345 hp (257 kW) and 380 lb⋅ft (515 N⋅m). LQ9s are built only in Romulus, Michigan.
LQ9 (VIN N) Applications:
LQ9
The Vortec HO 6000 or VortecMAX is a special high-output version of the Vortec 6000 V8 truck engine originally designed for Cadillac. This engine was renamed as the VortecMAX for 2006. It features high-compression (10:1) flat-top pistons for an extra 10 hp (7 kW) and 10 lb⋅ft (14 N⋅m), bringing output to 345 hp (257 kW) and 380 lb⋅ft (515 N⋅m). LQ9s are built only in Romulus, Michigan.
LQ9 (VIN N) Applications:
- 2002–2006 Cadillac Escalade AWD
- 2006 Cadillac Escalade 2WD
- 2002–2006 Cadillac Escalade EXT
- 2003–2006 Cadillac Escalade ESV
- 2003–2007 Chevrolet Silverado SS
- 2004–2006 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra Vortec HO Edition, Silverado/Sierra Performance Edition
- 2005-2006 GMC Sierra Denali pickup and Yukon Denali
- 2007 Classic Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra VortecMAX & Silverado/Sierra Performance Edition
Last edited by Y2K; 01-20-2018 at 10:22 PM.