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mpdfish 12-18-2016 10:35 AM

Help with cowl tag
 
I recently purchased a 1967 SS, or what was supposed to be a SS. The cowl tag has the 4P code that SS's have but above the 4P code is
W 2L 3SK
The car does not have the original transmission or engine. I was wondering if you guys could help me out.

peterpar 12-18-2016 11:32 AM

The best place to find this kind of information is at the CRG website. I believe the codes you have listed are: Group 1, W - Tinted Windshield; Group 2, L - M20 or M21 Four Speed Floor Shift; Group 3, S - Interior Décor Group, K - Exterior Molding Group.

mpdfish 12-28-2016 07:23 PM

So without trying to sound like an idiot (I am new to this). If I am supposed to have the M20 or M21 transmission would that mean it is not an SS?

peterpar 12-28-2016 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by mpdfish (Post 716573)
If I am supposed to have the M20 or M21 transmission would that mean it is not an SS?

The SS Camaros I believe were available with either the M20 or M21, as were non SS cars. The trim tag should designate the car as an SS by a 4P, 4N or 4K shown in the 4th group, although some of the early Norwood 350 SS' may not have it.

mpdfish 12-28-2016 10:27 PM

It does have a 4P. What made me think the car was not an original SS was when I took apart the inside the tac was new and did not have the wiring for it so I assumed it was supposed to have the clock in the place of the tac. It was also coded to have a bench seat which I was not sure that was ever an option for the SS. Sorry for all the questions, just trying to figure out if I got what I paid for and to make sure I do not sell it later for something it is not. Thanks for the help!

Gorn 12-29-2016 10:27 AM

Sounds like an SS car without the U17 gauge pack. The gauge pack forced bucket seats a console and gave you the 3 gauges and the Tac. If the car was an SS with the Gauge pack you got the 6500 RPM tac.

These cars where very mix and match. You could order just about anything so don't put too much stock in missing or existing options defining anything on the car. SS was a drive line and very little more. RS was an appearance option. GM made it money on you checking more boxes. The one everyone builds is the RS/SS, 4 speed, deluxe interior, gauge pack & AC. There is probably more of them now then there was new. Too bad GM never kept any combination data. You can find out how many SS or RS GM made in 1967 but you don't know how many RS/SS where made.

Icecobra 12-30-2016 11:24 AM

In todays world the collector car market is more about what you see is what you get than so much about what or what is not included on the cowl tag. Also keep in mind cowl tags are easily changed and so on. But if it is all original with original transmission, engine etc. then if will fetch more from collectors with correct cowl tag and the 4P on it.. . What is real is what you see, you bought a Camaro. It is a original Camaro built in the 60's and that's what you have. If you could find the original trans and engine then your off on your project. Without that your probably going to do your personal touches to it and build what you want the way you want it, as it should be. There is just not much value to a cowl tag that does or does not have some letters on it. Lets face it the letters have no impact on the car when you drive it or show it, possibly an ooo or an ahhh here and there from someone that knows what to look for.. For value there is just not much if it is not original....


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