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Old 01-16-2012, 04:13 PM
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Ok, when you ground that tan wire leading to the gauge, the gauge should have pegged empty (when things are working right). As long as you're absolutely sure you touched that wire to a good ground (what did you ground to btw), you'll want to check directly at the gauge. One side of the gauge has keyed power going to it, the other side is that tan sending unit wire. With the key on, if you connect the tan wire terminal to a good ground, and it doesn't peg to empty, your gauge is bad.
 
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:17 PM
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I grounded it to metal in the truck area. So the gauge would be bad if it is working otherwise...just off by half a tank?...twelve oclock when empty and 3 oclock when full? Is the gauge easy to replace? $$??
 
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:22 PM
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If you think there's any chance that ground area could be questionable, jumping a wire directly from your negative battery terminal to use as ground will dismiss any doubt.
 
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:34 PM
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ok, I'll try a few more things and report back in a day or so..
 
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:37 AM
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my gas gauge in my 68 does the same thing.. when filled it goes to almost 3:00 maybe 2:00 that is way past the full mark on the guage.. Great info here.
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:10 PM
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ommon issue with first gens. Easy troubleshooting to isolate if it is the gauge or the sender or the harness.

Unplug the sender lead in the trunk - in a 68, 69 (not sure about 67 color) it is the brown single wire connection.
Turn key to on position.
Gauge should read past full.

Now ground the end of the harness leading back to the gauge - NOT THE LOOSE LEAD GOING UNDER THE FLOOR TO THE SENDER.
Turn key to on position.
Gauge should read past empty.

If it does both of these the gauge is in working condition and harness back to instrument panel is in working order. If not you can test the ohms being sent to the gauge as described below for the sender test, or have a buddy loan you his gauge for a second and plug theirs in and test as above.

If both gauges fail - and your description of your situation sounds as if the gauge is fine to me - the harness may have cracked or broken wire. You can also alligator clip the brown lead of the back of the gauge to a ground to do the above trunk testing to isolate wiring.

But if the gauge moves to past full then past empty with the trunk connector test, then problem is most likely the sender unit in the tank, or its ground.

The sender uses a ground fixed to the back passengers side tank strap and that is where I would start if you can get under the rear you should be able to visually inspect if the wire lead is corroded or loose. If it looks ok and is clean of corrosion it still may not be ok, and you can hook a test lead alligator clip to the connector at the tank strap and then the other end to a new clean ground you have made on the chassis and see if your gauge now reads correct with the key in the run position.

If you have a good ground at the tank or with your new temp ground, you reconnected the lead in the trunk and you still have a past full gauge reading, then maybe the sender unit itself has lost the will to live.

To test the sender you need to test the ohms (resistance) with a simple multimeter.
You measure across the loose lead in the trunk to the connector to the gauge. You
should read anything from 0 to 90 (empty to full). If you are getting something close to what you think is in the tank, the sender maybe ok. You can manually manipulate the float valve with a bamboo rod or wooden dowel through the filler neck. DO NOT USE A METAL ROD. Last thing you want to do is set your tank of gas and your ride, garage and house on fire with a spark. You can also affect change by removing or adding fuel to the tank as you check the ohms.

If you get a change in resistance the sender is most likely ok and the connector in the trunk may have been loose, or the float may have been stuck. if it is flaky better to replace then rebuild in my humble opinion. Dropping the tank is not an easy project without help or a lift and storing gas may not be easy where you live (condo owners take notice your neighbors may rat you out). And if you rebuild, how long would it last before it found its own groove again and left you high and dry.
 
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:43 PM
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Thanks alot all the valuable information Thefley. I am going to print this out and go through it step by step and report back. I havent had a chance to do much since I last checked in...work keeps getting in the way??
 
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:31 PM
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Eh boy, thought this sounded familiar. When one copies and pastes, you're supposed to cite the source, and use quote marks!
Gas Guage Failure. . .How to fix [Archive] - Team Camaro Tech
 
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:43 PM
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Yea every time I post lint to the thread it wouldn't link. See other posts iv tried. So I just copied and pasted. Never taking credit. Always find answers on Camaro.net like this one I copied
 
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:52 PM
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I wonder why you're having problems with links? Are you trying to copy and paste directly, or using the "insert link" (globe) button?
If you can't post a link, you should still at least say where you got the info from, didn't fool me any!
That was all useful information, however most of those test procedures were already covered in the previous posts.
 


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