View Full Version : should I buy this big block camaro?


MusicMan
05-29-2008, 01:32 PM
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/car/697688242.html

My cousin was bragging to me how fast his friend's civic was. He says that it runs 10.5's, with only 20 grand in the engine. I choked, and proceeded to laugh at him. I said I can go fast, not that fast, but pretty fast for $2500. So I found the above car. I found a front clip for it for $500, and I would just paint it satin black or any other satin color. I figure I'd offer him $1000, buy another clip, and a used posi rear end and run it. Is this a good buy? I want to build a street legal bracket car, one that I can drive to the track. I figure that I can race this as it sits, then build a 383 for it in the future, or maybe even a 454. So, yes or no?

I was going to put a rear end in my car, but this 79 looks like a lot more fun.

1990CamaroRS
05-29-2008, 02:15 PM
i'd say that would be a very good project car. should move pretty good too;)

73camaroSS
05-29-2008, 02:41 PM
buy it before somebody else does. that way you wont be the slowest car in NORTH WEST F-BODY jk lol.

MusicMan
05-29-2008, 03:46 PM
what times could I expect out of it if I gave it a posi?

Camaro 69
05-29-2008, 05:38 PM
Oh man, the engine alone is worth that (as long as it's tight). That's too far away from me, otherwise it would be "gone in 60 seconds"! Better grab it, it would be a fun car to play with.

MusicMan
05-29-2008, 05:47 PM
yeah, maybe saturday. it's a 79 engine, so the emmissions might have killed it. But it has a cam in it, so the problem should be taken care of.

Now for the next question, what do I ned to pay attention to while I'm there? I always take my compression tester when I look at used cars. I just want to put a list together and check things off while I'm there.

What time do y'all think it will run? I don't know much about the pontiac engines, and how heavy that camaro is.

GRIFF
05-29-2008, 05:55 PM
You never know but my guess is it could be a scam to get your email, Ive had it happen a few times. Seems like a good deal, pontiac 400s bring a decent price not like a 455 though I am sceptical especially with no phone #.

MusicMan
05-29-2008, 06:03 PM
We've been in contact by email a few times. He said to come look at it for myself. It's been for sale for a while now, I saw it about 2 weeks ago for $2000, then $1800, and now $1200. It must be pretty beat on the outside. But I did find a complete front z28 clip, with the louvered fenders and a hood with the scoop.

Camaro 69
05-29-2008, 06:17 PM
Better hurry...I'm checking Mapquest next, it might be worth the trip!:D

MusicMan
05-29-2008, 06:22 PM
lol, I've sent him 2 emails, I CALL DIBS! lol, my luck, it's probably a piece of junk. There's also a malibu with a 350 in it for a little more.

MusicMan
05-29-2008, 08:15 PM
lol, first time doing this:

bump

I don't want this to slip through my fingers, some more input would be great. I have every reason to get it, any reason not to? This is about all I can afford. As soon as I get a reply, I'm going to go over with $1000 cash.

73camaroSS
05-29-2008, 09:19 PM
you need to check for rust holesand see if the suspention isstiff and dosent have a lot of body role, for the rust holes checkin between the door and rear finder right next to the door jamb. look to under the dash to see if somebody has done a hack job under there.

trust me you wont be disapointed on how the car drives and handles. shoot if it has good suspention itprobily could out handle your sixxer. not to mention the torquewill be a totally differnt than that sixxer. i say get it dont worry about the looks and just foucus on the motor and drivetrain, and paint it black like my car.

GRIFF
05-29-2008, 09:26 PM
On the camaro look at the rear frame rails a sign of bad things is rust in the trunk along where the framerails are spot welded on, check where the front of the leaf sping bolts in. If the spring pocket is rusted out its alot of work to fix it. These points need to be solid for a drag car unless you plan on tubbing it out. In the front check where the front subframe bolts on they have a tendancy to rust here also. The pontiac engine is a decent engine worth more for someone with a pontiac the pontiactrans are not really interchangable with a chevy. Ive seen guys use the chevy trans on the pontiac with the top bolts out. The cars weigh around 3600 pounds we weighed my buddies car which alot of unnessesay stuff like the bumber was removed it weighs 2700 lbs. Good luck with it stick to your price make sure the title is good, I exchange the money when I go to the title office... trust no one..

MusicMan
05-29-2008, 09:28 PM
well, I don't think it'll out handle my sixer, but it'll kill it everywhere else. I'll look for the rust. I know squat about these older camaro's. let alone pontiac engines. Thanks for pointing where to find rust. I'll probably pull the dash and make a racing dash out of stainless or aluminum. This thing would be pretty bare-bones. Just what it needs to race, but enough to drive it on the street. Dad gave the green light, and says he'll pay for it. But the damage to the front concerns him, as well as me. hopefully I can just throw another clip on it.

GRIFF
05-29-2008, 10:10 PM
http://thumb17.webshots.net/t/58/758/0/78/99/2544078990034422057KpsfoA_th.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2544078990034422057KpsfoA)

GRIFF
05-29-2008, 10:13 PM
I tried to get a pic of my flat black camaro to post but I couldnt figure how to pull it from webshots....

MusicMan
05-29-2008, 10:15 PM
http://thumb17.webshots.net/t/58/758/0/78/99/2544078990034422057KpsfoA_th.jpg

there :D

GRIFF
05-29-2008, 10:17 PM
Ha Ha I am so incompetent behind this thing...

MusicMan
05-29-2008, 10:25 PM
http://image58.webshots.com/758/0/78/99/2544078990034422057KpsfoA_fs.jpg

MusicMan
05-29-2008, 10:28 PM
Whoa! Too big!:D

Alright, now you have to tell me about your car. (engine, trans, rear end, times)

That's what I want to build!

GRIFF
05-29-2008, 10:56 PM
Its a 79 bought it for $500 rebuilt the rear frame rails and the floor pans. Put a 67 chevelle 12 bolt in it, series 4 carrier 4.56 gears superior axles. Traction bars, 29 x 10 slicks. Frame is tied and it has a 8 point roll bar. It will run consistant 8.30s in the 1/8 not fast but its bracket racing. The GTO was dialed in at 9.10 wasnt any problem heads up. The engine is a garage built 350 with vortec heads. Trans is a th350 with a shift kit and a 3500 stall. Its the poster child for low buck fun we even tow it with a tow bar(you can see the tabs on the front bumper). We do have a nicely built 400 for it but I am lacking time and a th400 to get it done. I think this engine can get into 8.0s with some good air and a bit more tuning. It runs on 87 octane most of the time.

MusicMan
05-29-2008, 11:05 PM
ever run it in the quarter?

hopefully I don't need to repair anything big, This thing might turn out to be a waste.

GRIFF
05-30-2008, 09:47 AM
No we never took it over the closest 1/4 mile track is about an hour away this track is about 10 minutes away, and we are usally late getting there. If rust isnt an issue these cars are easy to work on, you can fit anything from a straight 6 to a big block in them. When you think about it the 2nd gens came with a straight 6, v 6, small block or a big block from the factory. The factory 10 bolt is a fairly stout rear end in these cars. Your other option being the Malibu may actually be a little easier to set up because they already have a full frame, I dont think they look as good though.

MusicMan
05-30-2008, 10:08 AM
its an 80's malibu, I think its a unibody.

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/car/697573729.html

MusicMan
05-30-2008, 01:50 PM
crud, the camaro sold. :(

Oh well, time to move on to bigger and better things I guess, back to rear end plans for my camaro I guess. Shoot, that makes me mad. I sent him like 3 emails in two days. What do you guys think about the malibu?

73camaroSS
05-31-2008, 07:28 PM
not a big fan of the malibus and it seams its a little to spendy. you need to find a oldf-body that isnt a tottaly a piece of crap and drop a big block and make it a sleeper.