I have a 91' Camaro RS and I was wondering what i should put in it. I'm thinking of putting some headers and a much bigger engine. I was also thinking of putting in a Blower or a turbocharger. I don't know what would be more better and what would make it haul ass! I'm on about a $5,000 budget so i just need to know what i should buy, and where to buy it. I just want some feedback from all you camaro Fiends. LOL. Oh yeah i was also thinking about modifying the exhaust pipes and adding two batteries instead of just one. Can you guys give me the price range on all these things, so that i can smoke imports by even more! I need some posts fast, because i want to fix it up already. I have money but i don't know what to do yet. If you have any suggestions on any other modifications i should do to it, can you please hit me up. Its completely stock right now, but i'm hoping that will change SOON! Peace!
TimmyTheWop89
11-08-2005, 11:03 PM
haha ur lust like me, disliking small japanese import junkers. well i need some info about it. is it fuel injected? is it a 5.0 or a 5.7? well, what i can tell you is if it is a 5.7 carbureted, u can get a single carb blower out of a jegs or summit magazine, for about 1500. along with headers and just about everything else you will need. a dual carb blower, 6-71 wieand will cost you just over 2000, and will be a real kick to the shorts. i am not a fan of turbo's because it reminds me of japanese tuner cars, and a blower looks a million times better. if it is fuel injected, find out if it has a throttle body style. if it is, u will have minor electric work to do, but u could have a blower with a throttle body on top rather then a carb, which is a little better performing then a carb. by the way, if u get a blower on a carbureted car, u have to buy a carb made for a blower, or u could do some damage to your current carb. hope i can be of help.
nj85z28
11-08-2005, 11:51 PM
im pretty sure its a 305 TPI...
bjames5
11-12-2005, 06:00 AM
Well it must be nice to have $5,000 to put into the ride you got. Well if it were me I would really think about what I wanted to do with it. I would start with the new motor. I would put a 383 stroker motor in it. I know of a local machine shop in North Carolina that told me for about $3,500 would get me a 383 stroker with about 500hp at the rear wheels. If you want a supercharger just make sure you build the bottom end so that it can take it. With the 383 I would do the headers, a strong 411 gear, and all the other trimmings. If you go with the 383 you could put a tunnel ram on it to finish it off instead of the super charger or you could add NOS. Good luck with your build up.
Actually, most likely it is a 305 TBI and not TPI like ours was. We upgraded to a 350 TPI bored .060" over, with a bigger cam, and new headers. All rounded out at about $5000. What a huge difference!!!!!!!! I would suggest some sort of engine swap and not just a blower of sorts. Be worth it in the end. Besides, you could always add a blower to the new engine later on.
TimmyTheWop89
11-16-2005, 08:36 PM
oo bored .060 over, thats pushing it. i know a kid in my town that has a 350 in his S10, he bored his motor 60 over and has had to rebuild it several times. must really haul ass though.
RatedZ
12-08-2005, 10:36 PM
The 305 works very well with supercharging, and I believe that the 1991 RS had 215hp/300+ftlbs tq. With supercharging, you'll probably make about 330hp/450ftlbs tq.
Also upgrade with an exhaust, cold air intake, and intake runners. Intake runners will provide a significant gain.
Lee Willis
12-09-2005, 01:21 AM
I would go with a 400 fuel-injected crate motor or if you can find it for the price, a 427 super stroker motor with headers. Plan to add a SC later, but this would give you low end torque and a good platform to work with.
RatedZ
12-09-2005, 01:32 AM
ORIGINAL: Lee Willis
I would go with a 400 fuel-injected crate motor or if you can find it for the price, a 427 super stroker motor with headers. Plan to add a SC later, but this would give you low end torque and a good platform to work with.
Good choices, Lee, but where do you find a 400ci crate motor? Is GM even offering such?
Depending on how long it'll take the car to take shape, another consideration could be something even more radical, because I believe after 20 years, cars aren't even prone to emission testing anymore in some states. I could be wrong though, but that's what my understanding has been regarding emissions.
Lee Willis
12-09-2005, 12:55 PM
ORIGINAL: RatedZ
give you low end torque and a good platform to work with.
Good choices, Lee, but where do you find a 400ci crate motor? Is GM even offering such?
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There are gobs of ads in GM High Performance magazine, Hot rod, Super Chevy, etc., all advertising crate engines or long-blocks at some very good prices. I've seen 350, 383, 396, 400, and 427 cubic inch LT- series small block derivative engines in the $3500-$6000 range a couple of times, but never really paid a lot of attention, except to one 427 ad which I called just to find out how and what it was. (I really want to do a late model C4 vette with a full 427 cubes running a "grandfather" cam - would be a great daily driver street car).
Just by thumbing through a copy of the Jan. '06 HOT ROD which I happen to have here in my hotel room (I'm on the road this week), I find the follolwing two ads: they don't number the pages with only ads, but counting from page 110:
Page 118 if they numbered it:
Burt Greenwood Chevrolet ad for CRATE ENGINES (800-867-3010)
In the small blcok chevy section, they list:
350 cubes 290 HP $1619
350/330 HP $2,379
ZZ4 350/355 HP $3779
385 cubes/385 HP - $4379
ZZ383/425 HP - $4779
page 120 Iif they numnbered them)
Ultra Street ad (800-295-7142)
434 cubic inch small block 625 HP - $7995
472 cubic inch small block 675 HP $10,950
These last two are more $$ that we were talking about, and because they probably use decked blocks (certainlty the latter has to) they are not going to be an easy fit, but these two examples -- which I found within ten seconds of opening the mag., make the point that if you shop around there are lots and lots of choices. do your homework and you can find good prices
And these engines all come with guarrantees, guys!!!!
I would think $5000 could buy a complete, H.O. crate engine in the 383-414 cube range (I'd goe with cubes by someone else might want to go with slightly smaller and more revs), with enough left over for a good set of headers. THAT would be quick, reliable, really wake up that car, and provide a solid base for future upgrades.
RatedZ
12-09-2005, 04:56 PM
ORIGINAL: Lee Willis
ORIGINAL: RatedZ
give you low end torque and a good platform to work with.
Good choices, Lee, but where do you find a 400ci crate motor? Is GM even offering such?
There are gobs of ads in GM High Performance magazine, Hot rod, Super Chevy, etc., all advertising crate engines or long-blocks at some very good prices. I've seen 350, 383, 396, 400, and 427 cubic inch LT- series small block derivative engines in the $3500-$6000 range a couple of times, but never really paid a lot of attention, except to one 427 ad which I called just to find out how and what it was. (I really want to do a late model C4 vette with a full 427 cubes running a "grandfather" cam - would be a great daily driver street car).
Just by thumbing through a copy of the Jan. '06 HOT ROD which I happen to have here in my hotel room (I'm on the road this week), I find the follolwing two ads: they don't number the pages with only ads, but counting from page 110:
Page 118 if they numbered it:
Burt Greenwood Chevrolet ad for CRATE ENGINES (800-867-3010)
In the small blcok chevy section, they list:
350 cubes 290 HP $1619
350/330 HP $2,379
ZZ4 350/355 HP $3779
385 cubes/385 HP - $4379
ZZ383/425 HP - $4779
page 120 Iif they numnbered them)
Ultra Street ad (800-295-7142)
434 cubic inch small block 625 HP - $7995
472 cubic inch small block 675 HP $10,950
These last two are more $$ that we were talking about, and because they probably use decked blocks (certainlty the latter has to) they are not going to be an easy fit, but these two examples -- which I found within ten seconds of opening the mag., make the point that if you shop around there are lots and lots of choices. do your homework and you can find good prices
And these engines all come with guarrantees, guys!!!!
I would think $5000 could buy a complete, H.O. crate engine in the 383-414 cube range (I'd goe with cubes by someone else might want to go with slightly smaller and more revs), with enough left over for a good set of headers. THAT would be quick, reliable, really wake up that car, and provide a solid base for future upgrades.
The ZZ383 sounds like a pretty nice package, and considering you get 425hp, I don't find the $4,779 price to be all that outrageous. It's not cheap by any means, but 425hp is pretty stout.
Lee Willis
12-10-2005, 01:28 PM
"Good choices, Lee, but where do you find a 400ci crate motor? Is GM even offering such?"
I don't think GM does. But there are gobs of other crate engine companies and I have seen it somewhere. I remember seeing one in some ad sometime back - same ad that I called about an exactly 427 cubic inch small block. I do believe, however, that the 400 was a rather mild engine -- might be meant for replacement in old Impalas, etc., those that came with the original siamesed cylinder wall 400s. I just didn't pay that much attention.
I tried googling "400 crate engine" and so forth but all I get is stuff for the new 400 HP circle track crate engine kit. Thats 400 HP, not 400 cubes, however.
It may be that 400 cubes is not a popular crate engine size, I suspect that is the case: probably the siamesed cylinder block is not a good base for mods (too weak?) and people avoid it and either stay slightly under of over tha #, or if they use it bore and stroke it to take every cube they can: I would.
Mostly what I see are the 383s and a few 396s (More Performance) -- displacements right below that # -- but most who go over 400 go way over, 414, 427, or 434s. Then there are the guys with the decked blocks for super stroke - up to 572 in a small block, but that gets expensive to install.
I can't find that 427 ad now, which is the one that had a 400 listed, too. (most in find in this month's mags offer 434) now and when I get one I'll go find these guys for the 427. I just like that #. But it will be a while. Whife says I have three toys now and she has only one kitchen and it needs new countertops (which, believe it or not, cost more than a crate engine!). she has a point, so my C3 or C$ 427 small block project will be on hold for a while.
RatedZ
12-10-2005, 03:05 PM
ORIGINAL: Lee Willis
"Good choices, Lee, but where do you find a 400ci crate motor? Is GM even offering such?"
I don't think GM does. But there are gobs of other crate engine companies and I have seen it somewhere. I remember seeing one in some ad sometime back - same ad that I called about an exactly 427 cubic inch small block. I do believe, however, that the 400 was a rather mild engine -- might be meant for replacement in old Impalas, etc., those that came with the original siamesed cylinder wall 400s. I just didn't pay that much attention.
I tried googling "400 crate engine" and so forth but all I get is stuff for the new 400 HP circle track crate engine kit. Thats 400 HP, not 400 cubes, however.
It may be that 400 cubes is not a popular crate engine size, I suspect that is the case: probably the siamesed cylinder block is not a good base for mods (too weak?) and people avoid it and either stay slightly under of over tha #, or if they use it bore and stroke it to take every cube they can: I would.
Mostly what I see are the 383s and a few 396s (More Performance) -- displacements right below that # -- but most who go over 400 go way over, 414, 427, or 434s. Then there are the guys with the decked blocks for super stroke - up to 572 in a small block, but that gets expensive to install.
I can't find that 427 ad now, which is the one that had a 400 listed, too. (most in find in this month's mags offer 434) now and when I get one I'll go find these guys for the 427. I just like that #. But it will be a while. Whife says I have three toys now and she has only one kitchen and it needs new countertops (which, believe it or not, cost more than a crate engine!). she has a point, so my C3 or C$ 427 small block project will be on hold for a while.
Good point. I don't hear much about 400ci crate motors.