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Old 11-28-2015, 12:04 PM
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Yea we spoke and he recommended everything else that I need to consider in buying. He's awesome! He recommends me getting this cam for my daily driver
223/231 .557/.571 110 LSA. He said it would give me tons of mid range torque. Also recommend me to purchase 4.11 gears. Only thing I want to figure out now is, how can I find a clutch that is like mines again. I've drove other maros and I have to let the clutch out pretty far in order for it to move, unlike mines I barely begin to release the clutch and it's ready to go. Any help with this?
Instead of trying to find a clutch like yours you just get use to different feels of different clutches. Most of the feel is coming from your hydraulic system but some of it comes from the clutch type itself. The factory clutch is a diaphragm style pressure plate but even the clutch material can vary the feel. Most heaver clutches are going to be coil springs. These will have a complexly different feel from a stock clutch, the next step is a dual disk setup, again a completely different feel from stock or a heavy application. When I was a GM tech we had to test drive new cars. I could feel some variation from one car to the next. It was slight but I could feel it. Heck even the age of the brake fluid in the clutch master cylinder and the type of hose that connects the master and slave can effect feel.

The clutch feel and the brake feel are two thing a drive needs to be able to adjust for. You may never have a clutch that feels the way this one does again.
 
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Old 11-28-2015, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorn
Instead of trying to find a clutch like yours you just get use to different feels of different clutches. Most of the feel is coming from your hydraulic system but some of it comes from the clutch type itself. The factory clutch is a diaphragm style pressure plate but even the clutch material can vary the feel. Most heaver clutches are going to be coil springs. These will have a complexly different feel from a stock clutch, the next step is a dual disk setup, again a completely different feel from stock or a heavy application. When I was a GM tech we had to test drive new cars. I could feel some variation from one car to the next. It was slight but I could feel it. Heck even the age of the brake fluid in the clutch master cylinder and the type of hose that connects the master and slave can effect feel.

The clutch feel and the brake feel are two thing a drive needs to be able to adjust for. You may never have a clutch that feels the way this one does again.
Well I have drove other cars that are standard, and man those clutches are not for me . Nearly all the ones I drove had to be released about 1/2 way, and that to me sucks. I like quick release clutches, anything that Will release before 1/2. When I bought my car the owner said a race clutch was installed but never told me what brand/kind. So I'm basically aiming for the same or about the same clutch as mine. What are good clutch kits you may suggest that can take a good banging?
 
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Old 11-29-2015, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by craby
sounds like the master or slave cylinder may be going. or you have lots of clutch left to use. lol. could be air in system too. assuming you do mostly city driving 411 should be ok. lol nowdays freeway is slower than city so i could be wrong. probly work fine all around.
411 gears would definitely make you quick but would eat your gas mileage if you do much highway driving. Do you know what gears are in the car now?
 
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Old 11-29-2015, 09:34 AM
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411 are not so bad on milage with the 6 speed as they are with auto. lose 5 or so mpg. auto would be closer to 10.
 
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:35 AM
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That's true he did say it was a 6 speed. Still 5mpg is pretty big in my opinion. I'm still curious as to what's in it now. I'd probably go with 3:73's. It would depend of the driving habits though too.
 
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:52 AM
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Lot's of people do 4.10 and 4.11 swaps running the six speed. I don't think you'd lose 5mpg. M6, 3.42s, 27in tires @ 65 give 1383 rpm. 4.11s with all other factors constant gives 1662 rpms. Compared to the 700R4/4L60E which would give 1936 & 2327 respectively.
 
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Old 11-30-2015, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 95z28man
That's true he did say it was a 6 speed. Still 5mpg is pretty big in my opinion. I'm still curious as to what's in it now. I'd probably go with 3:73's. It would depend of the driving habits though too.
It's completely sick motor wise, but has a full exhaust Lts, ORY, magnaflow cat back.
 
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Old 12-01-2015, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MKCoconuts
Lot's of people do 4.10 and 4.11 swaps running the six speed. I don't think you'd lose 5mpg. M6, 3.42s, 27in tires @ 65 give 1383 rpm. 4.11s with all other factors constant gives 1662 rpms. Compared to the 700R4/4L60E which would give 1936 & 2327 respectively.
Oh wow. Ya if you can still turn 13-1400 rpm at 65 with 411 then I retract my argument. go with 411's
 
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:01 PM
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stock tire hight is 26 inches. i have 370 gears and at 60 i turn 2k. look at your production codes and see what gears it came with from factory. should be a sticker in the glove box with codes on it. 4th gen are a gu code
G Codes

RPO Ratio Axle Type
G44 3.07 Rear
G72 2.14 Rear
G75 3.62 Rear
G82 4.33 Transaxle
G83 4.47 Transaxle
G84 3.70 Rear
G89 4.13 Transaxle
G90 3.15 Rear
G91 6.83 Rear
GH0 3.54 Rear
GH1 3.55 Rear
GH2 2.29 Rear
GH3 2.77 Rear
GH4 2.28 Rear
GH7 2.73 Rear
GJ1 5.38 Rear
GJ2 5.13 Rear
GK7 4.78 Rear
GK8 4.33 Rear
GK9 4.63 Rear
GL0 5.13 Rear
GL3 6.17 Rear
GM0 3.58 Rear
GM1 2.59 Rear
GM2 3.44 Rear
GM3 3.45 Rear
GM4 3.67 Rear
GM5 3.89 Rear
GM6 4.22 Rear
GM7 2.39 Rear
GM8 2.56 Rear
GM9 3.63 Rear
GN9 4.11 Rear
GS0 6.43 Rear
GS4 2.70 Rear
GS8 3.94 Transaxle
GS9 3.46 Rear
GT1 5.63 Rear
GT2 4.77 Rear
GT3 4.55 Rear
GT4 3.73 Rear
GT5 4.10 Rear
GT6 4.19 Transaxle
GT7 3.33 Rear
GT8 4.10 Rear
GT9 2.87 Rear
GU1 2.41 Rear
GU2 2.73 Rear
GU3 2.93 Rear
GU4 3.08 Rear
GU5 3.23 Rear
GU6 3.42 Rear
GU7 3.73 Rear
GU8 3.90 Rear
GU9 3.91 Rear
GV0 3.55 Rear
GV1 3.85 Rear
GV2 5.83 Rear
GV3 3.57 Rear
GV4 3.36 Rear
GV5 3.82 Rear
GV7 4.05 Rear
GV8 2.72 Rear
GV9 4.25 Rear
GW1 3.91 Rear
GW4 3.31 Rear
GW5 3.16 Transaxle
GW6 3.27 Rear
GW8 2.92 Rear
GW9 2.93 Rear
GX1 5.43 Rear
GX3 3.33 Transaxle
GX4 3.75 Rear
GX5 4.09 Rear
GX6 3.53 Rear
GX8 3.74 Transaxle
GY1 3.85 Transaxle
GY2 4.30 Rear
GY3 4.29 Transaxle
GY4 4.53 Rear
GY5 3.75 Front
GY7 4.18 Transaxle
GY9 4.31 Rear
 
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:39 PM
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94+ M6 has a really high (low numerically) sixth gear, .50:1. 26in tall tire would bring the rpms up to 1726 in sixth gear with 4.11s.

When I drove my black Camaro to Pittsburgh, I barely touched sixth gear...I felt like the car was lugging too much so I kept it in 5th most of the trip. This was with 3.42s and 26in tires.
 


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