Looking for original motor for my '70
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Looking for original motor for my '70
Looking for a 1970 350 with the VIN # 586902, I know this is a needle in a haystack, maybe a period correct motor would be fine...Right now I have a 69 327.
Steve
Steve
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Eastern PA,
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Find the right casting, deck the block, send it out for re-stamping, bam number matching .
The original machine GM used to stamp the motor is still floating around. Some very smart guy bought when they were scraping it. Way back in the day I had the number of the place but I lost over the years. He used to charge $500. This is one of the main reasons numbers matching means very little to a lot of people.
The original machine GM used to stamp the motor is still floating around. Some very smart guy bought when they were scraping it. Way back in the day I had the number of the place but I lost over the years. He used to charge $500. This is one of the main reasons numbers matching means very little to a lot of people.
Last edited by Gorn; 02-02-2017 at 09:11 PM.
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Find the right casting, deck the block, send it out for re-stamping, bam number matching .
The original machine GM used to stamp the motor is still floating around. Some very smart guy bought when they were scraping it. Way back in the day I have the number of the place but I lost over the years. He used to charge $500. This is one of the main reasons numbers matching means very little to a lot of people.
The original machine GM used to stamp the motor is still floating around. Some very smart guy bought when they were scraping it. Way back in the day I have the number of the place but I lost over the years. He used to charge $500. This is one of the main reasons numbers matching means very little to a lot of people.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Eastern PA,
Posts: 10,352
It is actual a old process, I learned about it from a car collector in 1989. The law is only broken IF the purpose it is done is to defraud someone. It is not illegal to do it to win a show or if you are just building it for yourself.
Think of it like making a semi automatic AK47 in your garage. If you do it for yourself it is 100% legal and you don't even need to tell anyone you made it. When you die your wife can sell it. But make a AK47 so you can sell a untraceable gun you are looking at 10-20 years. Its all about intent at the time you do it.
Think of it like making a semi automatic AK47 in your garage. If you do it for yourself it is 100% legal and you don't even need to tell anyone you made it. When you die your wife can sell it. But make a AK47 so you can sell a untraceable gun you are looking at 10-20 years. Its all about intent at the time you do it.
Last edited by Gorn; 02-02-2017 at 09:15 PM.
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Sort of. It comes down to intent. If you build a AK receiver from a folded blank or even machine one out of steel and assemble it for personal use and sell it later on its no big deal. Perfectly legal. You are not required to mark it in any way. You could do several a year if it fancied you. If , on the other hand you build them for sale you are considered a manufacturer . You must obtain a type 07 FFL and you must comply with all the federal and potentially state regs concerning markings and of course the 7% FET .
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Sort of. It comes down to intent. If you build a AK receiver from a folded blank or even machine one out of steel and assemble it for personal use and sell it later on its no big deal. Perfectly legal. You are not required to mark it in any way. You could do several a year if it fancied you. If , on the other hand you build them for sale you are considered a manufacturer . You must obtain a type 07 FFL and you must comply with all the federal and potentially state regs concerning markings and of course the 7% FET .
Last edited by Camaro 69; 03-04-2017 at 06:46 PM.
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Oh God. Sorry to take this so far off track.
Yes, you can sell it ( The gun ) as long as local laws are met. No need to serialize or add makers mark. Remember. You as the MAKER do not need to serialize and mark the receiver as you are NOT a manufacturer. A "manufacturer" is an FFL class. The laws that are often cited in these discussions are aimed at 07 manufacturers NOT casual "makers" Its true. I was a class 02/07 special occupational taxholder for a decade and I can recite letter for letter from ATF regs if you like. Built thousands of rifles. paid a lot of excise tax. Sort of know what I'm talking about. If you live in a state like mine that requires you to sell all guns through an FFL you arent going to find ANY dealer that will process it through his books with no serial numbers or manufacturers marks but private sales in states that allow that do not require marking by federal law for home meade firearms. You can also not transfer any firearms out of state without markings unless it is pre 68 again because no dealer would touch it.
Yes, you can sell it ( The gun ) as long as local laws are met. No need to serialize or add makers mark. Remember. You as the MAKER do not need to serialize and mark the receiver as you are NOT a manufacturer. A "manufacturer" is an FFL class. The laws that are often cited in these discussions are aimed at 07 manufacturers NOT casual "makers" Its true. I was a class 02/07 special occupational taxholder for a decade and I can recite letter for letter from ATF regs if you like. Built thousands of rifles. paid a lot of excise tax. Sort of know what I'm talking about. If you live in a state like mine that requires you to sell all guns through an FFL you arent going to find ANY dealer that will process it through his books with no serial numbers or manufacturers marks but private sales in states that allow that do not require marking by federal law for home meade firearms. You can also not transfer any firearms out of state without markings unless it is pre 68 again because no dealer would touch it.
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